Patricia Volonakis Davis

Redefining "Sexy" One Man at a Time

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Patricia, you sure know how to make a guy feel good about himself. Thank you so much for including me in your list!

I think movies and TV have definitely altered our perception of what a good mate is, male or female. All of us have this idealized version of what we think we should want, and overlook a lot of quality around us because of it.

Excellent insights!

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I'm 25 and I have been married for 5 years to an amazing man who could and sometimes does eat cereal for every meal. You are so right with this post, it isn't what he eats, or wears, or how he looks that made me fall in love with him. It is his laugh, the way he makes me laugh, the way he holds my hand, and the way he so patiently and honestly has been reading all of my research papers for the past 3 years. And there is so much more. Sometimes I think people get so lost in what they think the media is telling us what we should have rather than what our hearts are telling us is right.

Whu!? Well, bless you for that... and, ditto, naturally.

Meanwhile, having just watched an indie film called My First Mister this evening, I was reflecting on how much I prefer indie romantic comedies, featuring slightly weird or mis-matched main characters. Amelie is another great example... Secretary a fairly extreme example... but the point is that they're about people with genuinely sad, sometimes rather broken lives, who can still meet and make a connection, despite their annoying personal flaws. Then I come down here and find a post so eloquently laying it all out there, which is a lovely synchronicity!

Of course, I'm probably as shallow as the woman you mentioned above, at times. We all buy into the air-brushed myths a little bit. But hopefully I'm learning to fight against that as I get older... to be less judgemental. Hopefully.

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Here I am all reading along, nodding my head, and BAM! I'm suddenly blushing and deeply flattered. Not a bad way to spend an afternoon. :) Thank you.

During the time that Karin and I were dating, I acquired a sebaceous cyst just above my right cheekbone, very near my eye. By the time I had it surgically removed, it was about the size of a shooter marble (or a first-gen computer mouse ball, to those born before 1980). It never bothered Karin. She loved me and when she looked at me, she may have seen the cyst, but failed to acknowledge it because she was actually looking at me. It's difficult to see the blemishes on a person's face when you're continually looking deep into their eyes.

Love is blind? Yeah, but only to the superficial things in which it has no interest.

"...to those born before 1980..."

I of course meant after 1980. Ugh.

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This is a good post even for us younger people as well!
All of us, no matter what our age, are being bombarded by ads and society in general to not look or act our true age whether it's 18 or 77.
We all need to focus more on the personality of the guy we're dating/married to/looking for instead of our ultimate fantasy. How else are we going to achieve happiness in that area?
Um... I'm speechless for now. I'll come back later with something that might be witty and funny and all those nice things you said... because I'd really like to warrant the praise. :-)
Good advice, as usual, Patricia. I blame the romance novels and movies as much as anything. Most young girls are looking for their knights in shining armour, and to live happily ever after once the wedding day has taken place. While most adapt to the reality of the struggle to survive when the babies come along, some never do. And lest I be accused of sexism, this also applies to some men as well.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment. From someone who I admire very much, that is most appreciated. Your husband is a lucky man. But he already knows that, doesn't he.


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It's a shame that other women can't see the world through your eyes for a day or even 5 minutes. I've seen women like the ones you've described, the ones that aren't looking for a husband but are looking for some lump of clay to form into the man they want. No doubt they'll become another Ms. Furrow-face, it really is shame that marriage has become (or will become) a prison for these women. Thank you for another wonderful post and thank you for the compliment!
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yeah - give me a real man anytime! - i'm certainly happy with mine - i feel bad for that woman with permanent frown lines (maybe her mother was the same way) - i feel worse for her husband, though - but, apparently, he hasn't left her, either - for less critical and bitter pastures - well, it takes two
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Hah -- Patricia, you flatter me -- thank you! (I think its been a long time since I've blushed at the computer, but you got me...)

Its funny though -- in today's society, there's such a sense of expectation -- perfect body, perfect face, perfect cocktail party conversation, perfect car, etc. etc. Its no wonder that people go a little crazy trying to live up to that hype -- no one can.

It took me a LONG time to be comfortable with myself as a person, who I am, what I believe, what my goals are -- too long by far. And in no way am I done, but I know enough now to listen, compare and make choices for myself -- and separate all the chaff that society throws at us.

Now, if I could just get girls to stop mistaking me for Clooney... ;)

you are SO right... as usual :)

some people have such ridiculous expectations of what they think "perfect" and "sexy" should be...

i don't know all the men on your list, there, but the ones i DO know on your list, i will definitely agree with you. they certainly are sexy. each in their own way. :)
As always, so good! I love that you relish your husband's quirks and remember it's all relative. Advice we could all use...
And I think that men and women fall into the same trap: we all hope for the images and stereotypes we grow up with in books, magazines, movies and TV shows. We're sold a very unrealistic version of the opposite sex, and only after years in the trenches do you realize that all humans, especially those you choose to spend years of your life with, are full of contradictions, flaws, quirks....AND surprises, adventures, and beautiful hidden treasures. Those who can't readjust their vision of what the opposite sex should be suffer a lot more from unfulfilling relationships.

I am afraid I don't agree with all your points. The bald, the short, the "shirt" thing - that was just because there was no chemistry and those are the metaphors we use to verbalise that there was no "zing". If there is chemistry then all that just fades away and is not noted in the first place.

I know there are lots of great guys out there, but I believe that it is becoming more difficult for people to "meet". There is less of a sense of community and community socialising now, we cocoon more. If you are a professional woman your position can be daunting to a man. It is easier for men to marry "down", it is traditional, than for women to marry down - it has been enculturated that relationships should be to equal or "better" social position. It is hard for these norms to be overthrown.

What if your husand, every single day, stood in the middle of the kitchen and said "where would I find the graham crackers and the peanut butter?" like a bewildered guest even though they had been kept inthe same place for 33 years?
If he ate the graham crackers in the living room and there were crumbs all over the couch and the floor, and oil marks from the peanut butter on the arms of the chair. He also triple dipped the communal peanut butter and left the open jar on the floor next to his chair - every day for 33 years? You see there are degrees of annoying. If you had a housekeeper who cleaned the mess it would obviously worry you less than if you were the hand servant!

It is just those little things that you think are quaint, or quirky that grow into monsters over the years. The woman mentioned in your blog obviously has a very different term of refernce to yours. Is your truth my truth. kind of thing...

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As always, you make great points with keen insight.

Honestly, I am more than flattered to be included on your list. I respect and admire you greatly.

But lets be real here. If I rightfully earned a spot on that list - I cannot take the entire credit. Women like you help make the men on your list.

You inspire us. Motivate us. Strengthen us.

(and tolerate us too ;))

So thank you.

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Great, wonderful, sexy, loving, kind, compassionate, caring, men come in all forms, as do women. Wonderful post Patricia!!! And, as for the frowning woman, she don't know what she's missed in life- you can't sweat the small stuff, that's just silly. Life and marriage can be so wonderful, and being happy is easier than people think, some people try to make it too hard and difficult.

Have a wonderful night/day :)
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Ta Patricia,

It's been a few years since I scored a sex bomb rating. In fact, this is probably a first.

It's interesting to think about how folk score their partner. I witnessed a sorry excuse for a human being shouting at his partner in an open office environment and couldn't believe how insulting he could be. It was pretty obvious he regarded his wife as his personal possession. I thought slavery was long gone in Oz but obviously not. I can't imagine how he could open his inner self to his wife or her to him. Marriage must be a kind of status symbol. I got the distinct impression she could hit the exit if a better offer came along.

I'm grateful for being able to spend my life with a walking, talking, thinking person who often gives me insight into how others think. Currently we are really enjoying out trip around Australia. Just the 2 of us. It's such good fun I'm thinking I should call it a laughing tour around Oz.

I used to think I was lucky that as we have grown older, we appreciate the same things but these days I think it's the result of respecting the other person's view and finding interesting things in the other person's ideas.

And to think I owe it all to an arranged marriage. Well, a virtual one. My Dutch Grandmother set us up quite shamelessly by inviting us to her 40th wedding anniversary as the only single people. Against all odds we were seated opposite one another too. Innocent lad that I was, I didn't twig immediately.

I hope some lost souls heed you advice and learn to enjoy potential partners for their uniqueness.

Well, thank you for your well though-out comment, Flamingo,. I appreciate it and you bring up some interesting points that I really didn't address in this post. For example, it might be true for many women to use a metaphor for 'no zing' but in the instances I described here- the shirt, for example, it really was just the shirt. I know this, because the woman I'm discussing was logged onto to a dating website and the man she was looking at had left his photo, along with a very nice letter to her. She liked the letter,she thought his photo was fine, she deleted his profile simply because of his shirt. She thought a man would pick such a hideous shirt was not a man she could date.

"If you are a professional woman your position can be daunting to a man. It is easier for men to marry "down", it is traditional, than for women to marry down - it has been enculturated that relationships should be to equal or "better" social position. It is hard for these norms to be overthrown."

Yes, it is hard for these norms to be overthrown. But I hope they can be as we grow older. A woman who has worked hard, a professional woman who has accrued say, a healthy bank statement, my thoughts are bravo for her, It's something to be proud of. But who do you leave it all to when you die? Why not make some great man a rich man? Men have been doing it for women for centuries. Maybe a fifty-year-old woman worked really hard, maybe a nice fifty-year -old man tried to pursue a career in music, say. It didn't work out and now he has an ordinary nine-to-five job. He's not a slacker or a leech, he's just not rich. What if he were terrific in every othere way? What if he, say, rubbed your feet when you came home at night, listened and sympathised to what a crappy day you'd had, made you great meals? Would you turn down that guy just because of outdated social mores? We might do that when we're twenty, but I hope when were fifty, we've earned the right to bend the rules a little. I'd rather leave my money to a man I loved than to nieces and nephews who were maybe just waiting for "old maid auntie" to drop dead. But an average guy might get overlooked, because we're still following the same old rules from when we were young.

Here's your next point:

What if your husand, every single day, stood in the middle of the kitchen and said "where would I find the graham crackers and the peanut butter?" like a bewildered guest even though they had been kept inthe same place for 33 years?
If he ate the graham crackers in the living room and there were crumbs all over the couch and the floor, and oil marks from the peanut butter on the arms of the
chair. He also triple dipped the communal peanut butter and left the open jar on the floor next to his chair - every day for 33 years?

What you're describing here is not a quirk- you're describing someone who is uninvolved in his household and inconsiderate to boot. I wouldn't tolerate that. I can however, tolerate a man minding his own business eating whatever he'd like to eat for lunch. My husband makes own his peanut butter and graham crackers, puts them on a napkin, not a plate, so they'll be no spills and cleans up his own mess. The woman I spoke to - her objection was that he chose to eat the same thing every day. . To her, it wasn't "normal." It was a habit she thought I should "fix." She also objected to the fact that another woman's husband likes to use only one brand of soap. She thought that was something that needed to be fixed, too. Clearly she had a mindset of what a man should and shouldn't like to do. In short, she was bossy and obnoxious.

Iknow there are lots of great guys out there, but I believe that it is becoming more difficult for people to "meet". There is less of a sense of community and community socialising now, we cocoon more

I go to a local gym five times week. The place is crawling with nice, eligible, single men. None are perfect, but some are pretty great and many of them are looking for a nice woman. But I only know that they're there because I get out there and talk to them. In fact, I introduced one woman to one of them and they've been dating for several months now.

From your blog you sound pretty great yourself. I don't know if you're looking for a companion, but if you are, I only suggest you think about what I wrote as a possible alternative to some of the things we learned as very young women.

I know when I was young, chemistry was crucial. I've found as I've grown older chemistry can develop, if the man has all the qualities I think are important. When we're young, the chemistry comes first, and that' where I think people get themselves shackeled to someone who won't suit them in the long run.

But again, these are only my personal feeligns and thoughts.

But lets be real here. If I rightfully earned a spot on that list - I cannot take the entire credit. Women like you help make the men on your list.

You inspire us. Motivate us. Strengthen us.

(Sigh) See what I mean? This statement is only one very good reason you're on the list! ; )

after years in the trenches do you realize that all humans, especially those you choose to spend years of your life with, are full of contradictions, flaws, quirks....AND surprises, adventures, and beautiful hidden treasures. Those who can't readjust their vision of what the opposite sex should be suffer a lot more from unfulfilling relationships.

I know it's because you think like this, that you're making such a success of being a life partmer and a stepmother. When you get to feeling again that you're not going to be a good mum because you don't think you want to breastfeed, I say, please remember your words here. You bring better qualities to the table of your motherhood than just a 'wet boob'. Your newborn will never miss it because he/she will have so many other gifts from you.

; ) I'm telling Steve you're trolling for other men on your blog. Hee hee hee. (joking)

Hey, Pax, I'm just getting back into the VOX swing of things. I haven't been over to see you in a while. I hope to stop by tomorrow and see how the play is going. As for the rest, you had to know you'd be on my Top Sixteen Sexy List. ; )

It is true that there are Peter Pans who never grow up in both sexes.

As for the rest, though you probably don't know this, my husband reads your blog whenever I tell him you've got something posted I know he'd be interested in. When I -uhem- "happened" to mention to him you said he was a lucky man, he replied. "Snowy is right, as usual." :D

All very true - and no not looking for a man - I have been married to a short, bald man with bad dress taste for 31 years! In your example the shirt is creating the brand, it is part of the communication process - what else do you have at that stage to go on - it is the same thing that makes someone walk across the gym. The reason why women spend so much money on clothes, why we worry about how we look on our blog pages. We have 40 seconds to make an impression - it works for some it doesn't for others, move on.If there is time to go beyond that good and well, because perhaps one will move beyond the purely physical,

I honestly mean it when I say I wish I'd known the things you do when I was twenty-five. Reading your comments and your blog and the blogs of some of the other young women on VOX, I am starting to believe (and happily so) that this up and coming generation of women is one heck of a savvvy generation. It sounds as though you and your husband are making a very happy marriage for yourselves.

Of course, I'm probably as shallow as the woman you mentioned above, at times. We all buy into the air-brushed myths a little bit. But hopefully I'm learning to fight against that as I get older... to be less judgemental. Hopefully.

I think we do and should as we get older, hopefully. Which is the point of the post, of course.

During the time that Karin and I were dating, I acquired a sebaceous cyst just above my right cheekbone, very near my eye. By the time I had it surgically removed, it was about the size of a shooter marble

Okay, but what were you eating for lunch when you and Karin were dating? That's the really important thing. (Hee hee- joking, of course)